An example of the stupidity we have to deal with; (28/07/2009)

Hey, I went onto a protest page against Fianna Fail today (http://www.bebo.com/wereallyhateFF), there was allot of good information on it about Fianna Fail and their poor performance over the years. In the comment post a Fianna Fail Loyalist masquerading as Eamon de Valera wrote;

“WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU’S ARE DOING?!!!!!!!!!!!

LET ME GUESS A BUNCH OF OUT-OF-WORK PLUMBERS AND SPARKYS LUKIN FOR SUMWHERE TO GIV OUT.

U MAKE ME SICK. FIANNA FAIL HAV BUILT THIS COUNTRY. EVERYTHING U C IS COZ OF A FIANNA FAIL GOVERNMENT. THATS A FACT.

UR ALL EITHER FINE GAEL/ LBAOUR SCUM WHO DESERVE TO BE SHOT…. JUST LIKE MICHAEL ‘THE CUNT’ COLLINS WAS. GR8 DAY IN IRISH HISTORY

SHUT THIS BAND DOWN U UNEMPLOYED GEEBAGS. UR A DISGRACE TO THIS COUNTRY!!!!”

One week ago. 3 times in a row!!

He then posted this comment;

“ 32-48 = Fianna Fail government
51-54 = Fianna Fail government
57-73 = Fianna Fail government
77-81 = Fianna Fail government
87-94 = Fianna Fail government
97-Present = Fianna Fail government

SINCE 1937 FIANNA FAIL HAVE ONLY NOT BEEN IN POWER A TOTAL OF 16 YEARS!!!!

SO YES, THEY DID BUILD THIS COUNTRY!!! ”

Six days ago.

He then posted this comment;

“sorry… SINCE 1932 FIANNA FAIL HAVE ONLY NOT BEEN IN POWER A TOTAL OF 16 YEARS!!!! even more impressive

Irelands greatest heros:

Eamon de Valera
Sean Lemass
Jack Lynch
Charles Haughey
Albert Reynolds
Bertie Ahern
Brian Cowen “

Six days ago.

I was a little annoyed with this bullshit and decided to give him an economics, history and ethics class all at once, I wrote the following and posted it as a topic at the top of the page. What I had wrote can be seen below;

Title: You are a small figure hiding behind that of a giant, take off your mask!

Hey, I just want to say thanks to the person who set up this page, you are good person for doing this and despite what a small, pathetic, misguided and vocal minority think you have the RIGHT to do so!! Freedom of Speech, read the constitution!!

I also ask you to ignore the person hiding behind Eamon de Valera’s picture, but some people just can’t be reached… they can’t see sense, they can’t be reasoned with and they can’t accept when they are wrong.

I would like to answer this critic, however he is right about a few things, Fianna Fail were only out of power for 16 years, but how many of these, Fianna Fail led governments were coalitions and/or were dependant on independent TDs for support. But if they were so great when they were in power then why was there no economic boom in this country until the Fine Gael – Labour government (94-97) of the mid 1990′s? The notion that Fianna Fail created it is just propaganda, its just an illusion. If you know your history you’ll know that Fine Gael and Labour only ever get into power when Fianna Fail has severely damaged the country, FG – Lab make the tough decisions and get punnished for it by the electorate thus allowing Fianna to jump back onto the stage and take all the credit for saving the day, when in actual fact they did nothing! The only difference now is that they have been left to wallow in the shit that they’ve made for themselves and sadly they are dragging the rest of us down with them.

When Fianna Fail came into power they inherited a strong and growing EXPORT BASED economy. Bertie and Charlie McCreevey (the then minister for finance) began to erode Irelands tax base by giving tax breaks to the wealthy and developers (people who didn’t need them), this error in conjunction with mishandling of the industrial – manufacturing base led to the slow and inevitable loss of manufacturing jobs, enlargement of a property bubble on which our tax system was based and upon which our economy hung, as well as the over growth of the construction industry which was just too large for a country of our size to support.

The end result was that the construction bubble burst and developers couldn’t afford to pay the poorly regulated banks… Which we as a country are now paying for in the form of cuts to services and bail out packages for these banks (with out any strings attached – God forbid). Ireland could well be handing 214% of its GDP (Grosse Domestic Product – the profit a country makes per year) over to the banks… The money we have given them so far there is still no recovery?? The E.U. average was 7.5% of GDP. But where will we get the cash? We will borrow it at a high interest rate from the I.M.F. (International Monetary Fund) So our grand children will be shovelin’ shit to pay off this debt and 2 out of every 10 euro paid in tax in this country will be spent on servicing this debt (servicing the bebt means paying off the interest on the debt but not the debt itself). We are now an international laughing stock.

Over the last 12 years Fianna Fail have plundered the public purse (now more than ever) to look after their own friends and interests. Our economy is in melt-down, our health system is destroyed, the country’s infrastructure is still under developed (especially out side of Dublin) and our public service was allowed to become bloated and over-paid to the extent that we have to borrow E400 million a week just to keep them all going, that is allot of money… Basically all Fianna Fail claim to have achieved over the last 12 years in power is now being UNDONE.

It’s all one BIG SHIT-HEAP and everyone but the wealthy elite who created the mess has to suffer for it. They’re good to promise allot in Fianna Fail but they can’t deliver and when they do, what you’ve read above is the end result. Having our country mismanaged and bankrupted is no joke! SOMEBODY MUST BE HELD TO ACCOUNT!

On a separate note, Only Eamon de Valera, Sean Lemass and to a lesser extent Jack Lynch have earned the right to be elevated to the rank of HEROS OF IRELAND. Eamon de Valera (was a 1916 leader & kept us from getting destroyed in WW2), Sean Lemass (tried to build up Ireland as an Industrial nation in the 1960′s but only with limited success) and Jack Lynch (tried to provide strong leadership for the country in the turbulant and industrial strife ridden1970′s and tried to seek a peaceful solution to the North’s problems). With the exception of Albert Reynolds, the rest were all frauds, tax cheats, consummate liars (someone who can’t tell the truth) and/or corrupt bastards.

Michael Collins was also a hero, he fought in the 1916 rising, helped to rebuild the IRA as an effective fighting force, he developed many of the military tactics we collectively know as “guerrilla warfare” today. He also developed an Intelligence service that not only matched but out-classed that of the British. Under the then leader of the Irish provisional government (Eamon de Valera). He was sent to negotiate the first ever treaty between the Irish people and the British government and he did. Sadly these achievements were soon forgotten when he became a hate figure for staunch republicans at the out-break of the civil war. Then he was tricked into trying to negotiate a truce with the then republican movement so that he could be assonated… He knew he could be killed but he tried to go the extra mile for peace. He gave his life to save this country from the tyrannical rule of the British, HE WAS THE KIND OF PATRIOT WHO CARED MORE ABOUT THIS COUNTRY THAN HIMSELF! HOW DARE YOU ATTACK HIM FOR IT!!! By the way Eamon de Valera once said; “I believe that in the fulness of time the greatness of Michael Collins will be recorded, and it will be at my expence”, At least he had the honor, the humility and the decency to show Michael Collins the respect he was entitled to.

Speaking of which, did you know that although Eamon de Valera was originally from Co.Limerick he  considered him self a Clare man? I know this because he ran as a TD for East Clare before becomming President and there is a statue of him in front of the court house in Ennis. I am also a Clare man and you have NO RITE to abuse the good name and face of Eamon de Valera by talking such shit! All you are is a bad minded, mean spirited little shagger. YOU are what is wrong with this country a Fianna Fail LOYALIST who has to be told what to think and who pays more attention to the sport than the news! You are nothing but shit from the ground. That 16 year stint out of power is about to get a whole lot longer and your party will shrink, nobody will ever even think of going into coalition with them ever again. They have been shown up for what they really are!

p.s. I’m not a plumber or an electrician, I have a bachelors degree in Bio-Analysis and Bio-Technology (that’s in science by the way, you ignorant bollox) and thanks to fools just like you I can’t get work anywhere in this country, you moron.

Thanks again to the person who set-up this page! And sorry this post had to be so long but such idiocy deserves a proper rebuke! Keep up the good work and remember you’re not alone in this fight, so keep on fighting and remember it’s a war well worth winning, all our futures depend on it…

posted by Colm Carrigg